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THE CAST TALK BOUT THEIR CHARACTERS
INTERVIEW WITH MARTINA GEDECK (Ulrike Meinhof) In recent years Martina Gedeck achieved acclaim both in Germany and internationally as the female lead in the Oscar-winning drama THE LIVES OF OTHERS as well as in Robert de Niro's THE GOOD SHEPHERD and Oskar Roehler's ATOMISED (based on the novel by Michel Houellebecq). In 2008 she was awarded the FIPA d'honneur in Biarritz. Her upcoming feature films include Helma Sanders-Brahms' CLARA, in which she plays Clara Schumann. Martina Gedeck started her film career whilst still at drama school, starring in Dominik Graf's TV-drama "Die Beute" (1988) and his feature film "Tiger, Loewe, Panther" (1989). She received her first Bavarian Television Award for the title role in Jo Baier's "Hoelleisengretl" (1995). She won the German Film Award in 2002, the Golden Camera in 2003 and was nominated for the European Film Award for the title role in Sandra Nettelbeck's BELLA MARTHA (2002).
How do you feel about playing Ulrike Meinhof? Playing Ulrike Meinhof was a role that I'd always dreamed of. I've been fascinated by this woman for years. It's a complete mystery to me how an earnest, intelligent woman, who had high ideals and who reached so many people through her newspaper columns and had genuine political influence, could give up her children, her career, her entire existence in order to change the world with a Kalashnikov. How did you prepare for the role? I read everything I could get my hands on by and about Ulrike Meinhof. I talked to people who knew her, watched interviews and films about her and studied her radio and television work. And I also studied the way she talked and the way her voice changed over the years. What is your personal opinion on Ulrike Meinhof and the RAF's "armed struggle"? There's something hysterical about the RAF's self-imposed duty to change the world and fight for justice. Their conviction that their mission was imperative, their readiness to "fight until the last drop of blood" not only bordered on fanaticism, it's also an expression of hysteria. The RAF went on a hysterical crusade against a young, still fragile democracy, which in turn reacted hysterically. The RAF's armed struggle was something that should have happened 40 years earlier when Hitler was pushing for war. That's when people should have revolted and called to arms. But in the 1970s, all this bloodshed and the murder of innocent people were not only cruel and gruesome, but also politically wrong. Have you been able to solve the "Ulrike Meinhof mystery" for yourself? I still have many unanswered questions concerning Ulrike Meinhof. If she was still alive today, I would ask her how she felt about the RAF today, whether she thought that the RAF achieved anything other than killing and injuring people which lead to a tightening of the police surveillance apparatus. I would want to know how she dealt with the fact that she is responsible for the death of innocent people even though she'd been fighting against the nuclear holocaust and injustice. What role can this film play in our understanding of the history of the RAF? In Germany this film provides the opportunity to revisit some of the stereotypes and legends that revolve around the RAF. The film offers the chance to view the history of the RAF more realistically. As a result our view of our national past might become more dangerous but it will also be more accurate. How did you feel about filming inside Stammheim Prison? For an actor there's always a thin line between fiction and reality. During the making of THE BAADER MEINHOF COMPLEX this line became so blurred it was sometimes undetectable. We stopped "pretending." For the people we're portraying it was a matter of life and death, as an actor you have to pursue that kind of attitude at least to an extent. This is why filming in Stammheim Prison took my breath away - the past felt extremely close. INTERVIEW WITH MORITZ BLEIBTREU (Andreas Baader) Moritz Bleibtreu, born in Munich in 1971, trained as an actor in Rome, Paris and New York. He made his acting debut as a stage actor in Hamburg, but went on to star in feature films such as Tom Tykwer's RUN LOLA RUN and Oliver Hirschbiegel's THE EXPERIMENT, for which he won the German Film Award. He also won the German Film Award for his part in Thomas Jahn's KNOCKIN' ON HEAVEN'S DOOR. For his part in Oskar Roehler's ATOMISED he received the Silver Bear at the 2006 Berlin Film Festival. Bleibtreu had also starred in Roehler's previous film AGNES AND HIS BROTHERS. In recent years, Bleibtreu has appeared in several international productions, including Steven Spielberg's MUNICH, and in Paul Schrader's THE WALKER and ADAM RESURRECTED. His most recent roles in German-language feature films were the leads in Hans Weingartner's satire RECLAIM YOUR BRAIN and the German-Turkish gangster movie CHIKO. He is currently working on the children's film LIPPELS TRAUM, and will soon be acting in Jo Baier's adaptation of HENRY IV.
Who was Andreas Baader in your opinion? No matter how you see Andreas Baader in moral terms, you can't deny that he's a legend of some sort. And as such he's still haunting the collective subconscious of German society. People project their desires, hostilities and anxieties onto his persona. That's why everyone - including those who knew him - has their own idea of who Andreas Baader was and everyone will defend this idea because they're convinced it's the truth. So how were you able to play Andreas Baader? I had to keep the sum of what I had learned about Baader somewhere in the back of my head, and yet forget it and play my own Baader. In my opinion, he was driven by a constant craving for attention. There's little evidence that he was intellectually motivated in the beginning. OK, in general terms he knew what the whole thing was about politically, and he was very anti-authority, but his intellect was born later, out of necessity. Only when he realised that he wasn't going to get out of Stammheim Prison so easily, he shaped up intellectually and became the political leader who the RAF sympathisers wanted him to be. Andreas Baader is responsible for the deaths of many people. Weren't you ever concerned that your portrait of him might be too charismatic or too positive? Baader must have been an incredibly charismatic, charming man. He used his charm and wit to get people on his side. Especially in the beginning he must have had a certain anti-hero magnetism that attracted people. That's how it's written in the script and that's how I wanted to play him. Without wanting to pass any moral judgement, you have to show his allure and the audience needs to understand why so many people followed this man. He wouldn't have been able to turn so many people's heads if he hadn't had any charisma. How was it working with Uli Edel? Working with Uli Edel was brilliant. Uli is a director who guides you without giving you the feeling you're being ordered around. And that's a really great thing for an actor, especially since Uli knows exactly what you need and when you need it - when you need encouragement and when you should be left alone. Also, he was able to tell us so much about the time and the left-wing student movement, because he'd been there, he'd been part of it. He managed to create an atmosphere, where we all got the sense that we were portraying was deeply personal to him. INTERVIEW WITH JOHANNA WOKALEK (Gudrun Ensslin) Johanna Wokalek studied at the Max-Reinhardt-Seminar in Vienna. In 1998, whilst still a drama student, she made her cinema debut in Max Färberböck's AIMÉE AND JAGUAR, followed by the three-part miniseries "Der Laden". After finishing her studies, she took on a three-year engagement at the Bonn theatre. Since March 2000 she's been an ensemble member of The Burgtheater in Vienna, where she appeared in Luc Bondy's production of "The Seagull", Peter Zadek's production of "Totentanz" and Andrea Breth's productions of "Don Carlos," "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" and "Emilia Galotti". In 1999, Wokalek was named "Best New Actress of the Year" by the theatre magazine "Theater heute". She received the Bavarian Film Award in 2003, the German Film Newcomer Award and in 2006 the Adolf Grimme Award for the lead role in Hans Steinbichler's HIERANKL. In 2005 she played the female lead in Til Schweiger's romantic comedy BAREFOOT. In addition to THE BAADER MEINHOF COMPLEX, Johanna Wokalek is also starring in the upcoming mountain climbing drama NORTH FACE directed by Philipp Stölzl and Christian Frosch's thriller SILENT RESIDENT. Johanna Wokalek is still an ensemble member of The Burgtheater in Vienna, where she is currently appearing in William Shakespeare's "Wars of the Roses". She's also playing the lead role in Sönke Wortmann's POPE JOAN, which is currently shooting in Germany and Morocco.
How did you approach the role of Gudrun Ensslin? To me an essential part of Gudrun Ensslin's character was her relentless logic, the absoluteness of her thinking. That's what I concentrated on when I played her, and, in a way, I had to become as absolute and relentless myself. While we were making the film, I wasn't able to judge her because that would have meant distancing myself from her. Of course the crimes that she committed and that were committed in her name are horrific - there's no way I can approve of murder - but my job as an actress is not to find answers to all the questions concerning Gudrun Ensslin. Ideally, the audience will be finding their own answers to questions like "How far can we go in the fight for a better world?". What drew you to this role? To immerse oneself in the otherness of this person, whose actions are so alien to me, and to find some kind of truth - that's a fascinating challenge to me as an actress. When I first read the script my reaction was: "I can't believe all this really happened in Germany!" The history of the RAF has many facets and the film will, I think, emphasise the complexity of the topic. How did you experience the making of the film? Prior to filming, the main actors had to go to a shooting range and train with firearms, including machine guns. This stressed me out completely. Feeling the force of a weapon so physically was a terrible experience. The scenes in Stammheim were also incredibly stressful, because we created a very real sense of psychological pressure amongst the actors, which was very tiring. Like many of the other actors you also had to lose weight during the shoot. How was that? To me it was helpful that many of us were on a "hunger strike diet." This feeling of emaciation made me harder; it was easier for me to immerse myself in Ensslin's relentlessness. You also have to remember that food wasn't really very important amongst young people at that time. I talked to one of the wardrobe assistants who'd lived in the same commune as Andreas Baader and many others before they became members of the RAF. She told me that at the time everyone was extremely thin and just lived on cigarettes.
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